נייע ליטווישע מנהגים - מ'פארט אויף קברי צדיקים

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Did they hear anything when the Gaon turned over in his grave??????!

Vos toot men nit far a bisseleh parnasah.

who is the person thats Knealing?
its not Hishtatchus.....
Bunch of clowns...

HT,

You are missing the boat. Right now the financial Matzav is so bad in EY that they will do anything Lman Haklal to bring home the bacon (pun intended). I think if you told these Rosh Hayeshivos that if they wore Chinese robes and walked across a fire American money will roll in to feed their starving Talmidim they would do it and its not necessary a Genay that they are willing to do so. The biggest Rayah to this is R' Chaim K and the whole charade with his daughter "taking over" the Gedola business from her mother. They had no choice. All those ladies going for Berachos are supporting all of his Eineklech.

i think that's rav shafran bowing to the grave in the 2nd pic.

It's no taana against the Litvaks because they do it for money. The taana is on the Chasidim, who nebech actually believe in this.

snagville

so it's for the starving Bnei Torah or for Reb Chaim's einiklach?

These pics r for the starving the Bnei Torah. The charade with his daughter being the new Gedola is to continue the family business.

Take it easy. It's a minhag Yisroel brought down in many sources to go to the beis eilem in chodesh Elul.It is also proper to give tzedakah.So what's the "garatchke?"I have news for you-the kevorim of the GRA and Ger Tzedek and other Litvishe gedolim were held in the greatest esteem by Litvishe Yidn before the war,too.At appropriate times during the year and in an eis tzoroh,people would come to be mispallel at these kevorim.Is klal Yisroel not in the midst of a terrible eis-tzoroh now?I guess there's a special mitzvah to criticize LISHMOH.Mitzvah min hamuvchar.

it's NOT Reb Mendel Shafran.

I agree with kleiner . there are so few real Litvakes around today (not ungarische or yekkes who claim they are Litvakes becasue they studied in Mir does one become a yekke if he studied in a university or a Magyar because you like sweet fish and that chocolate gooyey stuff ?) that they do not know the real minhoge Lita. This new chevra of yeshivaeshe people amake up their own Litvishe minhogim(whiel eating kokesh cake or taking about yakh) without even knowing where Shniposhik was or who Maras Dveyre Esther was !!
Jews did not go the kevorim of the GRA and the Ger Zeddek in Vilna ? Of course they did !
Litvisher Yidden did not make parties or minyannim in the "feld" . they did not run their on a weekly or daily basis. Their home was the kloiz not the Beth hachaim.
But on yarzeitin or other times of course Litvishe Yidden went to kevorim. By the way the only 2 places in the world that accepted minhoge hagra was the Perushim in Jslm and the parushim int he Gra's kloiz in Vilna. Other Litvishe Yidden ahd a centuries old minhogim. For the role of the Beth hachaim in Vilna take alook at any of Chaim Grade's books and you will see that Yidden went to the "feld"
Now don't get worked up at this I am not criticizing anybody. Nehare neharei upishtei.

I am a real Litvak. Meaning my Elter Zeide, ben achar ben, was born and bred in Lithuania, and pronounced a choilem as an "ey," as did my grandfather,

Unfortunately, for today's so-called "Litvaks," of whom most are not of Lithuanian-Jewish descent, I am Chassidish.

But you know what? I think that today's Chassidishe Hanhoges are more in line with what my great grandparents did in Lithuania, than with what the current "Litvaks" do.

Like my Chassidishe Rosh Yeshiva says, "they call themselves Litvaks?! They think they are following in the ways of the GRA?! The GRA was a Yid with Peyis and a bekitche, and a shtreimel! They think the Talmidei haGRA were clean-shaven like them?... (I'm not going to finish the end of what he said!)

chossid,
your rosh yeshiva sounds like real dummy! if the gr"a had a shtreimel it wasn't a "holy,holy,holy" thing it was a fur hat because his head was cold. i highly doubt he wore a shiny silk bekeshe and thought it was some type of holy thing. he probably wore a long cloak because it was cold and because that's what everyone wore then.
i guess it's no wonder that the decent chasidishe yeshivos like aleksander and violipol and mordche duvid's bobov have to come to lakewood to find litvaks (yes, i know their grandfathers may not have been born in suvalk or rakov or snipishok like you) to serve as their roshei yeshivah. all the chasidim (or maybe according to you the real litvaks?) have to offer ae dummies like your rosh who ploiter nonsense all day about the gr"a's shtreimel.

As I have written a million times before Litvishe Yidden consisted of more than the yeshivas. There were hundreds of rabbonim ,(including many who belonged to Mizrachi , others who never studied in Slobodka or Mir and still others at the cusp of modernity) klei kodesh, a network of Tiffereth bachurim groups for working men, a strong Mizrachi movement to which many rabbonim belonged (the son of the CC Rav Leib served as president of the mizrachi in Poland) frum baale mlocha, frum university students in Kovna Orthodox gymnasiums Mizrachi chedorim , and before the Second war the Litvishe Chassiidm like Chabad, Stolin , Slonim and Koidenov played an important part in the religious life of lita.Many of the yeshiva students in Lita came from Chassidic Litvishe homes.
So if an American rabbi named Kraus obtains a PH.D and is called rabbi Dr. is he a yekke ? If a yekke goes to Lakewood does he become a Litvack? If a Hungarian becomes a Gerer is he a Peylishe ? Litvihse Yidden existed long before Volozhin, Slobodka,and Mussar and included in its frum community a lot of different groups.
IMO one can spend 10 years in lakewood and your personality will reflect the communtiy and family you grew up with.